[ExI] Longevity Day and Longevity Month - October 2016

[William Flynn Wallace]

I think this is a fundamental problem with self-experimentation in many
domains - mainly anti-ageing, but also cognitive enhancement. How do you
tell if it is working?  anders

I am giving niagen a try, and so far, no significant effects.  If they
occur I'll post it.  The trouble is, the way I feel day to day is so
variable that small changes either way may not be noticed.  I take a lot of
supplements and cannot tell you which if any are doing any good, with the
exception of the three I take for peripheral neuropathy.

But they are not expensive at all in my budget, so I will continue even
knowing that some are just wasted.

Maybe the biggest problem is this:  there is just no money or fame to be
gained from doing research on over the counter supplements.  Supplement
makers don't have the big bucks to do it.

bill w

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 5:06 AM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9 July 2016 at 09:58, Anders Sandberg wrote:
> > I think this is a fundamental problem with self-experimentation in many
> > domains - mainly anti-ageing, but also cognitive enhancement. How do you
> > tell if it is working?
> <snip>
> > Now, this is not intended as science, but rather for life improvement.
> But
> > it seems to me that one needs to check that it actually does improve
> things
> > in a measurable way for the cost/benefit ratio to be guessable. This is
> > extra tricky for long-term effects, where you cannot even test with a
> > placebo in reasonable time. Maybe the solution would be to try to do more
> > online pooling?
> >
>
>
> It is even worse if someone is spending a lot of money and time on new
> supplements. Once you are heavily invested in a system, emotional
> humans find it almost impossible to accept that it is a waste of time
> and money.
> e.g. xxxology.
>
> Objective tests are required and for life extension in humans the only
> real test is living longer. And even that may be an individual
> exceptional case.
>
> BillK
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