[ExI] The Meaning of the Universe

[William Flynn Wallace]

Panpsychism seems much more rational than atheism, which is a lack of
belief and a lack of caring about knowledge.  will

You can be excused only because you are young.  And maybe not then.  No one
in this group or any other group cares more about knowledge than I do.
Knowledge = science, and I am a scientist, as are most in this group, and
maybe many of them are atheists (though I prefer 'naturalist', which says
what you are, not what you are not).  Atheism is rampant among scientists.

As for panpsychism I am almost afraid to ask.  If telepathy existed it
might make some kind of sense.

And what has consciousness got to do with atheism or science?  It just is.
An elemental.

I reject metaphysics in its strict definition - something beyond the
physical.  That includes religion.

bill w

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> John, this video is kind of funny, but god is the sum consciousness of
>> the universe and all possible universes.
>>
>
> That may be your definition of god, but it's hardly, um, universal.
>
> The hard, "capital-A-for-" Atheist movement is a head-in-the-sand
>> movement.  Most of them know very LITTLE about science, because they say
>> "science explains the world, and that's all there is!"
>>
>
> That's a strawman.
>
>
>> "Atheism" is a nebulous non-existent viewpoint.  It is the view that we
>> should NOT try to ask why consciousness exists, or how, or what energy is,
>> or think about the anthropic principles, or think about the observer
>> effect.  It is a stupid dogmatic reaction to the stupid dogma of religion.
>>
>
> No, it's just a rejection of non-scientific beliefs like the
> guy-in-the-sky.
>
> -Dave
>
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