[ExI] Sanders, Clinton and Trump

[BillK]

On 19 May 2016 at 01:48, spike  wrote:
>
> A few weeks ago, Trump made a comment on torture.  He was asked what would
> happen if his top generals just said no.  He went on a fantasy about how his
> top generals would do as he ordered because of the compelling magnetism of
> his charming personality, I forgot the exact absurd reasoning.
>
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> When Trump made his comments, I immediately knew he was wrong.  If he issued
> illegal orders as president, his top commanders would refuse and surrender
> their swords.  None of those I know would carry out illegal orders, none.
> Torture is an illegal order.  Trump will not serially fire the top
> management of the military: he would need real leadership to run that show
> and handle all those fireworks, the kind the other military men respect and
> follow.  He has not the option to YOU’RE FIRED more than three or four.
> Otherwise he has even bigger problems on his hands.
>
> I now ask myself: did Trump learn from that?  I hope he did.  The office of
> president is not a dictator, not a king, not a lawmaker.  Policy maker.
> Influential of course.  But carefully and intentionally bounded.  I don’t
> trust either of the current leaders with that much power, and not grabbing
> up as much power as legally possible, which is way too much.
>


Wasn't it the CIA that did the torture?  Not the military.

In the heat of argument Trump was just saying that 'some organisation'
would follow his orders and do the torturing. (Redefining descriptions
and doing PR as necessary to excuse the procedures).

BillK