[ExI] cool article by shostak

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 16 21:01:59 UTC 2016


I agree with the logic of this article, but there's something missing.

Yeah - it's the rest of what it means to be human: emotions and feelings
and smells and tastes and the wonderful feeling of a woman's touch on your
body.  Would I give up those things for a higher IQ?  What do you think?

If you would, you are as cold as the machines referred to in the article.
I say let the machines do our heavy lifting, intelligence-wise, so we can
be fully human (not to say that I would not change anything about us; I
would).

bill w

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Darin Sunley <dsunley at gmail.com> wrote:

> The AIs /are/ all over the galaxy. The probes hit Earth at some
> indeterminate point in the geological past [the Cretaceous boundary stands
> out as a plausible candidate], and we're living in a simulation. :)
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:09 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: Re: [ExI] cool article by shostak
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>> On 16 November 2016 at 18:20, spike wrote:
>> >> Interesting commentary by SETI’s Seth Shostak:
>>
>> http://www.space.com/34713-intelligent-aliens-machines-seti-search.html
>>
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>>
>> >...I agree with the logic of this article, but there's something missing.
>>
>> Why aren't these AI machines all over the galaxy?
>> Why aren't they broadcasting?
>>
>> What Shostak doesn't mention is the speedup in processing of these AIs
>> and the consequences of that speedup.
>> It would result in the physical universe appearing to be very slow, even
>> 'dead'. And why would they try to communicate with the dead?
>>
>>
>> BillK
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>> We have no way to model machine curiosity.  We talk a lot of machine
>> intelligence and curiosity are part of human intelligence.  But it is easy
>> enough to imagine one without the other.  I have written software scripts
>> that go off and make all kinds of interesting mathematical discoveries, but
>> I have yet to write one which goes off on its own, asking questions or
>> wondering how the heck this or that.  I still hafta supply that part.
>>
>> Perhaps curious intelligent creatures created artificial non-curious
>> non-explorer non-expanding intelligence?
>>
>> spike
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