[ExI] biology term

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 13 14:53:14 UTC 2016


On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:16 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> *>…* *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] biology term
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> >…Yes, first, do no harm.  …  Now we know that we created jillions of
> problems by killing off gut flora with those same life-saving antiobiotics,
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> >…My latest book, B
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> BillW, you were on a roll here, but it looks like you were cut off
> mid-sentence.  I was hoping someone who knows stuff will post on this
> topic.  We don’t know where to call 911 if you have a stroke mid keystroke.
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> What about your latest book?  All this time we didn’t even know you are a
> published author.  Thou hidest thy candle under a bushel sir.
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Fiddling with gene frequencies without
knowing more about the consequences is a risky business.
rex
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​Sorry - this happens a lot to me and I hit a couple of wrong keys (wish I
knew which ones) and my draft either gets sent prematurely or it disappears
entirely.

My question relating to the last post is this:  how can we avoid harm by
gengineering humans when there is no comparable species to test the changes
on?  Maybe it is unavoidable that changes will cause bad problems that will
have to be worked out.  I have no idea how the medical ethics people will
work this out.

The latest book I read, Brain Maker, by the author of Grain Brain, makes a
strong case for the following diseases to be involved with disturbances in
gut bacteria (can't say caused yet):
 depression, autism, MS, anxiety, Parkinson's, chronic headaches, and a lot
more.​

​I am much more convinced by the evidence he presents than I was by Grain
Brain.

Medical people had a toy in the 1940s - antibiotics.  It was a wonderful
treatment for many things that previously were uncurable.  Kill all  the
germs - make germs a bad word.  Now we know that there was a big downside
that we are still experiencing:  antibiotics wiped out gut bacteria that
were first established by vaginal birth and breast milk and no efforts to
reestablish them were done - and are still not done by the average
physician.

Effect:  increases in obesity, autism and more.  "First do no harm" did not
apply.

 We are still largely in the dark about probiotics (and prebiotics, which
the gut bacteria feed on, mostly fiber, fermented foods, etc.), but he
quotes some amazing studies that are affecting autism and much more by
changing diet, adding probiotics, or in the extreme, getting fecal implants
full of probiotics.  He has a list of good probiotics and a week's diet
plan (not very reasonable, imo).

Highly recommended.  David Perlmutter, author.

(I got a really funny look from a nurse when I commented on the bottle of
alcohol rub for killing germs on your hands when I was at the doctor's
lately - I said "In the future that bottle will be gone.  You will be
better off going around kissing everybody on the mouth than trying to kill
germs on your hands." )

bill w  ​

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