[ExI] Nobody can say we weren't warned

Legionara legionara at openmailbox.org
Sun Oct 23 12:26:27 UTC 2016


It's too bad Johnson's brain is fried from all the pot. How did we get
from Paul to this?

On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 11:35:39 -0700
Chris Hibbert <hibbert at mydruthers.com> wrote:

> John Clark blathered:
> > If [... Trump ...]  why the hell did you vote for Mr. What Is
> > Aleppo?  
> 
> I'd rather have a president who has a policy position on the Middle
> East that doesn't call for military intervention at every turn than
> someone who's carefully tracking the details of which faction is
> currently in control of which region. There are more important things
> to get right.
> 
> My vote isn't going to change the outcome, so arguing that I *must*
> vote for one with a certifiable chance of winning doesn't carry water
> with me. AFAICT, the main consequences of my actions are results of my
> speaking to acquaintances about what I believe. The main effect of my
> vote is in the vote totals the day after the election. One more vote
> for a demopublican is completely unnoticeable (no politician ever read
> votes in his/her column as a vote against the other candidate), while
> another vote for a third party candidate who broadly represents my
> views is worth the time it takes.
> 
> > if [... Trump ...] And yet you voted for Mr. I Can't Name A Single
> > Foreign Leader because you wanted to make a principled stand.  
> 
> The question wasn't "Can you name a foreign leader?", it was "Please
> name a foreign leader you respect", and as Gary Johnson pointed out,
> if anyone you name has any warts, those become your warts. These days,
> it isn't safe for a politician to profess respect for Thomas Jefferson
> or George Washington. Do you think Bishop Tutu is safe? Maggie
> Thatcher?
> 
> Can you name a foreign leader that you wouldn't be pilloried for in
> some circles? I'd have expressed limited respect for some things that
> Thatcher or Mandela did, and point out that Germany's Merkel has been
> welcoming to refugees.
> 
> 
> And John, as far as your subject line goes, I've been warned about the
> dangers of voting for Johnson, Trump, Clinton, of staying home, and
> many other things. So, yes you've added to the din, but the incessant
> harping on a single candidate you find unacceptable doesn't make this
> a better place to have a conversation related to positive futures. I 
> wish you'd stop.
> 
> Chris
>    --
> It is easy to turn an aquarium into fish soup, but not so
> easy to turn fish soup back into an aquarium.
> -- Lech Walesa on reverting to a market economy.
> 
> Chris Hibbert
> hibbert at mydruthers.com
> Blog:   http://www.pancrit.org
> http://mydruthers.com
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