[ExI] right to try bill

[William Flynn Wallace]

if we do keep talking about making it illegal for the mentally ill to bear
arms, spike

It would be unworkable.  Added to the 1% of the population who are
schizophrenic, depressives add a lot more.  I think a workable law would
have to apply only to those who have been institutionalized and diagnosed
as violent and/or suicidal.  Your 'run of the mill' depressive is just too
common to put on the books.

I would not be in favor of including suicidal people, just those who are
psychotic and dangerous.  But really, I do not have the experience
clinically or with the literature to talk about people who are violent and
choose death by cop after killing as many as he can.  (notice no women -
despite the fact that they are more likely to attempt suicide - by drugs,
usually, not guns, which is a guy thing)

bill w

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 7:07 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> >>… it might eventually become illegal for those with mental health issues
> to bear arms as well.  Result: if one wishes to protect that right, one
> cannot risk a professional visit to a psychologist or psychiatrist.
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> >…Shotguns too?
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> We don’t know.  Prohibitions for felons include anything that goes bang.
> But if we do keep talking about making it illegal for the mentally ill to
> bear arms, then it makes mental illness functionally equivalent to a
> crime.  At least some of those who need them will stop seeing the psych
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> >…In most states the psychologist has the same confidentiality agreement
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> Ja.  Those with clearances were required to self-report those visits.
> Seeing a psych doctor was not grounds for suspension of clearance, but
> failure to report it to the security office definitely was.  Result: in
> spite of what we were told, we knew to power thru it on our own if
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> I know guys who did visit mental health pros and kept their tickets (the
> security people are humans too) and I had one friend who finished himself
> off using a motorcycle at 180 mph.
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