[ExI] alpha zero

[John Clark]

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:42 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:


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> They played Stockfish, which is a very highly respected program with a
> lotta lotta programmed-in chess wisdom.
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​And out of 100 games when playing white ​
against Stockfish AlphaGo won 25 games, and when playing black it won 3
games, ​
AlphaGo
​ lost no games, the remaining 72 games were ties.  And it learned how to
do this in less than a day. By the way, from these results i
t looks like having the first move i
​s​
a inherent advantage
​ in Chess.​
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> I still haven’t convinced myself it is true.


​If this is a hoax it's a very elaborate one the likes of which we haven't
seen since the cold fusion fiasco. ​

​And the hoax would involve a huge company like Google and that doesn't
seem very likely.​

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1712.01815v1.pdf

​John K Clark ​







> To figure out all that in a day requires some powerful inference
> activity.  John I am putting myself in the camp of hope it’s true, but
> estimate 70% chance it isn’t.  I don’t know how the hell they did this if
> true.
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> >…​ And if you ever hear that it's starting to treat optimizing computer
> code as a game then you may be hearing the opening notes of the
> Singularity. This is big…John K Clark
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> Sure and is there any reason why we shouldn’t treat code optimization as a
> game?  It is a clearly-definable goal: we can set the task to give a known
> outcome, give it a time to beat and a memory allocation to beat, may the
> best machine win.  It’s one of those new sports I have been yakking about
> for years, a great example of geek Olympics.
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> I want robot gymnastics too.  Whooda thunk that would just appear like it
> has?
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> http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/11/17/atlas-boston-dynamics-robot-
> backflip-cnntech.cnnmoney
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> We could have a code-athlon, where the game is to write the best and most
> efficient code, then let computers play against each other and against
> humans.
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