[ExI] left vs right RE: Universal basic capital was Re: Universal basic income

Mark Walker markalanwalker at gmail.com
Thu Jan 19 15:07:09 UTC 2017

In my book on BIG, I argue that in the future it will be a tie between
capitalism and communism. It will be capitalistic in the sense that the
means of production will be privately owned, it will be communistic to the
extent that the free market as we know it will disappear. The first step of
the argument is to see what I call the second law of production where the
means of production get cheaper and cheaper. Think of nanobots as being the
means of production. The cost to product more means of production is zero
within a rounding error. To see that we are well on the way, here's
something from yours truly:

Dr. Mark Walker
Richard L. Hedden Chair of Advanced Philosophical Studies
Department of Philosophy
New Mexico State University
P.O. Box 30001, MSC 3B
Las Cruces, NM 88003-8001

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:37 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017  Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
> ​> ​
>> Capitalism is the system with private control of means of production
> I don't know what you mean by "private", certainly not private people
> because human beings, private or otherwise, will not be the ones
> controlling the wealth generating machinery. The entire Left vs Right
> dialectic is becoming more obsolescent
> ​every day and is well on its way toward total irrelevance.
> ​Today's real dialectic is 8 people vs ​3.6 Billion people, and tomorrow's
> will be zero people vs 7.2 Billion people.
>> ​> ​
>> Government taxes both capital and labor and in the booming robot economy
>> these greedy Washington bloodsuckers will have no problem finding enough
>> victims to provide money for their nefarious schemes.
> ​Methinks you're re-fighting the battles of the last war and not
> confronting the realities of the present situation. Fifteen or twenty years
> ago I sounded very much like you, but even then I realized strict
> libertarian dogma couldn't continue forever, however I figured it would be
> a long time before AI started to make a significant impact on the economy
> so I could worry about that at a latter time. Well that time has arrived
> and its come much sooner than I thought.   ​
> ​ John K Clark​
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