[ExI] AI wins at Poker now!

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 00:39:43 UTC 2017

I can easily imagine that scenario playing out in one sport after another,
then in the trades and crafts.  spike

Now I can see AI doing fashion design and fabrics, wood carving, basket
weaving ("I just got out of basket therapy and I'm still weaving") and many
more, but not sports.

The whole point of sports is to go man to man, woman to woman, team to
team.  I have no doubt robots could be made that will beat the best
players, but that loses the whole point of sports.

I also think AI can do visual arts that are indistinguishable from human
productions (as are some art works by elephants and monkeys), primarily
because the visual arts have lost their way and just gone crazy.  Some AI
music is/will be good.  Perhaps not great, though who can tell anymore in
the pop area?  Avant garde classical already sounds like it was computer

Now here is what I would be totally shocked by:  an AI decides to write a
poem or sonata or draw a picture without any input from humans, and does so
after much research into those areas without being told to do so.
Unprogrammed initiative.

I think the point at which we should be shocked at what AI can do is in the
past.  Or in the case of the paragraph above, far in the future.

bill w

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:24 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

> >... On Behalf Of BillK
> Subject: [ExI] AI wins at Poker now!
> Saturday, January 21, 2017
> CMU Artificial Intelligence Is Tough Poker Player Libratus builds
> substantial lead in Brains vs. AI competition
> <https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2017/january/
> AI-tough-poker-player.html>
> >...
> “The bot gets better and better every day,” Chou said. “It’s like a
> tougher version of us.”
> Chou said he and the other pros have shared notes and tips each day,
> looking for weaknesses they can each exploit.
> “The first couple of days, we had high hopes,” Chou said. “But every time
> we find a weakness, it learns from us and the weakness disappears the next
> day.”
> -------------------
> >...Yea, that's the trouble with AI - they learn fast.
> And that means every AI running this program is now a world-beating poker
> player.
> The AI Singularity could happen real fast once it starts.
> (Not complaining - looking forward to it!)  :)
> >...BillK
> _______________________________________________
> This so reminds me of the advances in the chess world we watched in the
> 1980s and 90s.  Their ratings just kept steadily climbing much to our
> astonishment and delight, or in some cases dismay.  People were
> collectively getting better in those years, as we found a worthy opponent
> was always available and willing.  But it wrecked correspondence chess
> forever, as that activity became pointless.  One could never be sure an
> opponent wasn't using a computer.
> I can easily imagine that scenario playing out in one sport after another,
> then in the trades and crafts.
> spike
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