Legionara legionara at openmailbox.org
Sat Mar 4 19:21:26 UTC 2017

Take from the rich and give to the poor and everybody is poor.

On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 13:42:40 -0500
Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:30 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > ​> ​
> >> Like most thinking Americans, I've been struggling to understand
> >> the Trump phenomenon. I don't think it's got anything to do with
> >> entertainment value:
> >>  
> >
> > ​I strongly disagree. The Apprentice was a entertainment show,
> > millions of people enjoyed the show and they inferred from that
> > that they'd enjoy a Trump presidency too. They certainly didn't
> > reach that conclusion through reason.
> >  
> Yes, we are in strong disagreement. Trump's celebrity certainly
> helped him, but I don't think the vast majority of Trump voters said
> to themselves, "Well, this should be entertaining..."
> Reason/entertainment is a false dichotomy: just because it wasn't
> reason doesn't mean it was entertainment value. It could have
> emotion/fear/frustration/etc that led them to vote for Trump.
> ​> ​  
> >> I think he's tapped into a large pool of frustrated and angry
> >> people by echoing their concerns and saying he'll fix them.
> >>  
> >
> > ​The gargantuan gap between rich and poor that is growing and
> > accelerating would make anybody on the poor side of that canyon
> > angry, 
> Yeah, but, sadly, Trump voters weren't largely poor or even largely
> uneducated. Any anyone who thinks Trump is going to soak the rich or
> do anything to redistribute wealth to the poor is delusional.
> and it's easy to see why they'd think setting loos a bull in a china
> shop
> > would be entertaining, until they realize the china that is being
> > broken is their own. Unlike many liberals Trump at least realized
> > that the wealth gap is the defining political issue of our age, and
> > he managed to sell millions of bottles of snake oil as a cure for
> > this problem consisting of equal parts anti-free trade, anti free
> > markets, anti-immigrants, higher military spending, lower taxes on
> > the rich, and less health care for the poor. Yes Doctor Trump's
> > patented cure is pure triple distilled extra virgin crap, but it
> > sold.  However Trump will never be stopped if his opponents pretend
> > that the wealth gap isn't a problem. 
> Yes, like I said, he's tapped into a large pool of frustrated and
> angry people by echoing their concerns and saying he'll fix them.
> -Dave

Black Sun Rising
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