[ExI] Quantum consciousness, quantum mysticism, and transhumanist engineering

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Fri Mar 10 01:55:53 UTC 2017


On Thu, Mar 9, 2017  Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com> wrote:

>  The point I was making is that the implausible idea that evolution
> chanced upon the only way to produce consciousness
>

Even
​
if Evolution just got lucky and came up with a consciousness gene by
​
accident it wouldn't have been able to keep it for long
​
if consciousness is not a byproduct of intelligence;
​
it would be lost by genetic drift. All genes experience mutation but if the
gene is vital and the mutation renders it inoperative then
​
that nonfunctional gene
​
will not be passed
​
on
​
into the next generation
​;
but the
​​
consciousness gene has no effect o
​n​
behavior
​
so there would be no way for natural selection to even notice it was missing
​ much less select against it​
. So in just a few generations humans would be a race of zombies
​
with a mutated consciousness gene that no longer worked
​.​
 And yet I know for a fact that I am conscious.

There are only 3 ways out of this contradiction:

1) Darwin was dead wrong.
2) I am unique, I am the last conscious being in the universe
3)
​
Consciousness is the unavoidable byproduct of intelligence because
consciousness is just the way data feel when it is being processed.

​I don't think Darwin was wrong so it's got to be #2 or 3.​



> >   leads to the even more implausible idea that consciousness is
> independent of brain function.


A change in the physical chemistry
​of my brain ​
leads to a change
​in my​
 consciousness, and
​my​
 conscious experience, such as a itch, leads to a change in a physical
object, such as
​my​
 hand scratching
​my​
 nose. I just don't understand what more evidence the skeptics of a
physics-consciousness link need.

​John K Clark​
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