[ExI] labels etc. IQ

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Wed Mar 15 17:59:57 UTC 2017

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:25 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...most have gotten very squeamish about saying anything negative about
>> ​our​
>>  fearless leader...
Incorrect, John.  We were just tired of it getting brought up (by you) on
threads that were unrelated.  General policy I've noticed on this list over
the past decade is to start a new thread when you make a tangent.  It's
rude.  And the [GOV] tag is because we are generally a transhumanism
related listhost.  You could certainly make the argument that Trump poses
an existential threat to our stated purpose and so discussing that takes
precedence, but if he is able to make us stop discussing transhumanism with
erhm spooky action at a distance (stupid action at a distance?) then he's
kind of won in that regard too.

John if you remember I was nearly as vocal and profane as you when telling
people how awful of an idea it would be (and was) to vote for anyone but
Hillary.  And I was happy to see the list depart from something besides
older white men anxiously checking their watches and talking about freezing
their heads (sorry bout that one.)

But John we could have a thread about CRISPR and you would come in and say
"You know who else has DNA?  DONALD FUCKING TRUMP!"  I just don't
understand what you are trying to accomplish.  If you want to effect
political change then there are a lot of better ways to go about it.
Perhaps this is the only email listhost you subscribe to, though I sort of
doubt that.  If so, I encourage you to go to one where you will not meet
such resistance and annoyance (rightfully) for continuously derailing
threads.  I fucking loathe Trump and I still am tired of your posts on him,
kinda like some boy who cried wolf deal.

An extra ridiculous thing is that this thread seemed to have a pretty easy
on-topic lead in to the Trump stuff by discussing changes in the political
climate, but for some reason you introduced the topic with a non-sequitur.

If anyone was wondering, here is the original post in this thread just so
it doesn't get buried:

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:55 PM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>

> Re changing political opinions:  perhaps the best measure of intelligence,
> and my favorite, is the ability to adapt to new situations.
> If your opinions on nearly anything are the same as they were last year,
> or ten years ago, then you aren't moving with the times - not adapting, not
> thinking much about the issues, not learning other points of view.  Now
> probably you won't change such things as your favorite music, that sort of
> thing, your mother's apple pie.
> There are good reasons to stay with basic principles, and you need really
> impressive changes in the environment to change those, but many of them
> will have to be adapted to new situations, new data, new news, new people
> affecting your life, new ways of thinking about your principles, beliefs,
> likes and dislikes.
> All of you know all of this, so I am just reminding you of it.
> bill w
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