[ExI] Single Payer Healthcare
interzone at gmail.com
Tue Mar 28 15:35:57 UTC 2017
Since you seem to be hung up on the longevity metric, I would remind you
that correlation does not imply causation, and that one stat you're
bandying about does not tell the whole picture. The issue is more
complicated than that. As I mentioned, they are also profiting from the US
subsidizing their drugs. There is also the question of how outcomes
compare for individual diseases across these nations, and what treatments
It is not as simple as saying the AVERAGE citizen lives longer and on the
surface it costs less, so it is an open and shut case, single payer wins
and is the reason they are living longer. If you truly believe that, I
guess I don't have much else to say on the topic.
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:24 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Dylan Distasio <interzone at gmail.com>
>> but I do not think it is a fact that single payer healthcare systems
>> "work great."
> 30 countries spend about half what the USA does on healthcare and they
> live longer, a logical person with no ax to grind would have to admit
> that's pretty great compared with the USA.
>> Do you think that the UK's single payer system is working great?
>> If so, what dispassionate metrics are you basing this on?
> The average UK citizen lives to be 81.2 years old and spends $4003 a
> year on healthcare, the average USA citizen lives to be 79.3 years old and spends
> $9451 on healthcare.
> I think you are heavily discounting the rationing effect that is part and
>> parcel of any single payer plan.
> Rationing be damned. The bottom line is they spend less than half as
> much and live longer. If a theory doesn't fit the facts it must be
> abandoned. No exceptions.
> John K Clark
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