[ExI] non-physician heal thyself

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 29 20:18:01 UTC 2017

spike wrote:  We need to really think about new career paths in medicine
and other areas rather than just watch the old ones fall away one by one
while we wring our hands.

The clinic I went to had only one doctor and several nurse practitioners.
They should be charging different fees.  Another thing:  regular nurses are
WAY WAY overtrained for what they do.  A lot of it if fetching charts,
ferrying patients here and there, taking blood pressure, etc., all of which
could be done by a graduate of junior high school, if not lower.  Monkeys?

Physicians are highly conservative and don't want to give up any territory
to AIs, nurses, etc. and will hold on far too long.  I think they will be
forced to on the AI question, as the AI is demonstrably better and sometime
in the future every doctor's office will have one;, hooked to the web, of
course.  .
You don't fill out any charts.  You talk to the AI and tell it everything
it wants to hear, and a preliminary diagnosis and treatment will be done
before the doctor is seen.  No blasted paperwork that people lie on, don't
have the reading level to understand, etc.

And why not put one on every corner in town?  It can direct you to
specialists, if needed, just a drug store if not, and so on.  Licensing
will be a problem for the old fogies.

Doctors, not surprisingly, are like everyone else:  highly variable.  I
pity anyone who has had conditions like mine and just did what the doctor
said and never questioned, never researched, never got second, third,
fourth opinions.  One guy I know had to see 17 doctors before they found it
was shingles.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:33 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On
> Behalf Of BillK
> >...Dr. Watson, I presume...
> ...
> --------------
> >...Now it's doctors facing unemployment!
> >...BillK
> _______________________________________________
> Noooooo on the contrary.  If we take steps to make doctors more
> affordable, we can go see them.  I have full medical coverage; I don't go
> to the medics.  The deductible has gone crazy high since O-care.
> I can imagine super-specialist who are really more like chiropractors,
> where insurance doesn't cover them, but really insurance doesn't cover most
> stuff now, in a practical sense, because of that deductible.
> But if we had ordinary people who are priced out of the college market
> (and don't really like the idea of them acting as indoctrination camps
> anyway) go study one very specific area of health and wellbeing, with
> everything in between, that might work.  We can imagine a kind of
> pharmacist who you talk to and show her what is wrong, she decides if the
> commercial products might help you and so forth.
> Physicians would still have a job, but they would be the tougher cases.
> They don't need to see every sniffly nose and dirty bottom, they really
> don't need to see every case where a host of medical problems are caused by
> flab-meisters sitting on our lazy butts in front of the computer all day
> munching twinkies.  We know that is bad for us, we know how to fix it, we
> don't need expensive doctors to tell us.  We can have specialists work
> that, somebody like a PE coach or a foxy babe who encourages us to move our
> asses, who would refer the sick patients on up if they really need it.
> We need to really think about new career paths in medicine and other areas
> rather than just watch the old ones fall away one by one while we wring our
> hands.
> spike
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