[ExI] emotions

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Mon Apr 16 16:20:02 UTC 2018

In my case, at least, "so obvious that no reply was needed" was the case.

Thing is, rationality is the product of an educated mind: one that has
been shown that science and logic really do work a lot better than
wishing and drama.  That very concept has been under attack for
decades, in many of the areas that now vote for what has been termed
"anti-science".  Education seems like it would be the surest way to
fix this - but it is slow, and how to get it in when those currently
in power rail against it at every turn they can?

Fortunately this is not every turn.  There remain those rightly
convinced that, if nothing else, education can get their children
better jobs.  Making education - specifically, job retraining - more
available to out-of-work adults as well, so that education can get
them better jobs (better than "none", a low bar to clear), might be
one means of counterattack.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:52 AM, William Flynn Wallace
<foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I really don't know how to put this and not insult anyone, which I sincerely
> hope not to do.
> After Bill K's response to a post and my comment, I posted something about
> people not looking for something rational, but something emotional they can
> get behind and support.  No one responded.
> Now maybe it was because what I said was so obvious that no reply was
> needed, but it also might be that this highly rational and scientific group
> just don't like to consider emotions. I don't know which it is.
> I'll bet that most of us in this group think that evangelicals are a bunch
> of nuts, and most religious people are not far behind.  Ja?
> Maybe making decisions based on emotions is just anathema to this group, but
> every single decision contains some emotion.  People who are brain-damaged
> and cut off from their emotions don't know how to make even simple choices.
> "Do you want a roll or cornbread?"  Can't choose.
> Lurking, therefore, behind our rational beings are emotions.  Why use
> anything but rationality?  Because that's the way brains are built, and we
> have to come to grips with it.
> The national political mood among many, and I won't name a political party,
> though you know who it is, is anti-scientific to the point of complete
> irrationality.  I am not sure what we have to do with to win these people
> over, but if we don't the nation will go down and down and we will be
> unprepared for climate change, among other things.  I think we are already
> unprepared for that.
> We just can't ignore them.  There are too many of them and they won't go
> away, and they are a major political force - we have to deal with them and
> preaching to them about reason and science is not getting the job done.
> Ideas?
> bill w
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