[ExI] female heros?

Wed Aug 8 19:48:51 UTC 2018

Now just how many times a day having sex would you consider to be evidence
of addiction?
There are people in the world (Polynesia, of course) who think that ten
times a day just might be enough, and less than that and the female won't
get pregnant.  (No, I don't know what they do for a living, but they aren't
starving).

Niven, the scifi writer, has a character who was a wirehead -addiction to
electrical stimulation to an implant in the brain (maybe it's like those
rats in the 50s who had implants and pushed a lever to deliver current in
place of doing anything else including eating - they would pass out, wake
up and start on the lever again - however, we don't know if it is pleasure
they are getting - maybe it causes pain but pushing the lever lowers it and
refraining makes it increase).

It's not the number of genitals we have that is the deciding factor:  it's
depleting brain chemicals which, like nerve cells, have to have some rest
before doing it again.  A refractory period, it is called.  What if we had
some way of shortening that to, say, 30 minutes?  Then we could have sex 48
times a day until we passed out from lack of sleep.  (Yes, I know you can
do it in 30 minutes now, but can you do it every 30 minutes for hours and
hours?  Give me a reply if you can - we'll be famous -you'll have to beat
my record of six times in six hours - no, not recently, darn it.)

Or how about cutting out the middle man/woman?  Like pouring the beer into
the toilet.  Just find the sexual area, implant electrodes, get you some
alkaline batteries, and jive on no matter what you are doing (if, like me,
you have had an orgasm while driving a car in traffic - no, not
self-administered - you do learn your limits).

bill w

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:01 PM, SR Ballard <sen.otaku at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why should we suppose that Uploading would lead to sex addiction? To a
> certian degree, sexuality and sexual expression are tied to hormone
> production. For example, when very depressed, many people do not engage in
> any form of sexual behavior, including maturbation, having neither the
> energy nor the interest. On the other hand, testosterone, regardless of its
> cause, increases arousal.
>
> So if we were to upload, having no more hormones, we would certianly still
> be able to become addicted to sexual pleasure, just like some young men I
> know spend more time gratifying themselves sexually than anything else. But
> when uploaded, without the reminder of hormones, many people just might not
> think about it.
>
> For example, let's say that we all upload. Living in our virtual world
> together, we have no need to eat, but it persists for a long time as a well
> ingrained social habit. People design their own virtual homes and they
> throw virtual dinner parties and everyone enjoys food. Many newly uploaded
> people would probably design homes with bathrooms, even though they no
> longer need to bathe or use a toilet. Over time, we can imagine that people
> would stop designing bathrooms with toilets because they don't need to use
> them. How long, do you think, it would be before you realized that one of
> your friend's virtual houses had no tiolets?
>
> Or sleep for example. If after uploading humans can sleep and dream, but
> no longer require sleep and don't ever get sleepy, how long might it be
> before you realized it had been days or weeks or months or maybe even years
> since you slept?
>
> I think that after initial experimentation sexually, that quite a few
> people, freed from the obligations of hormone directed needs would
> generally not think about it after a while. Of course there would still be
> enthusiasts and hobbyists and so on.
>
> But people might just not form pair-bonds  or sex or have any interest in
> children and things like that after a certian amount of time after being
> uploaded.
>
>
>
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>>
>> But there may be a downside to that.  I am constantly pondering a
>> question I have had since I was younger than I am now: Fermi’s paradox.
>> Where is everyone?  If we figure out how to simulate sexual climax, most
>> intelligent entities would lose interest in day to day living and would go
>> into constant multiple-site orgasm mode.  This is the closest thing I can
>> think of to John Clark’s notion of digital drug abuse.  Simulated humanity
>> could screw ourselves to death.
>>
>>
>>
>> spike
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