[ExI] Electoral College and 1177 BCE

[Will Steinberg]

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 13:20 John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:07 PM Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>
>>> ...Clinton
>>> got
>>> 2,864,974 more votes than Trump
>>> yet Trump is now our leader...
>>>
>>
>> *>Really??!? *
>>
>
> Yes really.
>

Never would have guessed, I don't think anyone has mentioned it on this
list. ;)


>
>> *>This is the first time you've mentioned it.  I assumed he found a
>> golden ticket in his chocolate bar or something.*
>>
>
> Will, doesn't that statistic bother you even a little?
>

Obviously.  But:

1) I can't change the past, and complaining into the void is fucking stupid.

2) You'd have to be similarly fucking stupid to think getting rid of the
electoral college is a good idea.  In fact, it largely HELPS democrats.
It's much better to have your votes condensed in an unlosable election (NY,
CA) than to have to win 20 separate elections in middle America.  Fact.

3)  EVERYONE running for president knows how the electoral college works.
Hillary lost those states because she assumed she'd win them and didn't
campaign enough there.  It was a strategic failure.  She was outmaneuvered,
whether by Trump's campaign, the GOP, or Russia (all 3 seems like the
correct choice.)


> >>
>>> History will not look kindly at this.
>>>
>>
>> >
>>  *Welcome, John K Clark--GRAND ARBITER OF HISTORY!!!! *
>>
>
> How do you envision History will remember the Trump era?
>
> Do you think people will be proud to tell their grandchildren "I voted for
> Trump"?
>

WHERE are you getting this shit?  Listen: I don't like Trump.  He is a
shame and a stain on our history.  I just don't go pissing into my own face
pointlessly like you do by whinging constantly about the past.  Why don't
you complain about Andrew Johnson or something?  So far he was far worse
for the country and 100% was the cause of current racial
tensions/inequality.

I think history will look back and say:

a) Trump clearly colluded with Russia, who influenced our election using
social media psyops.

b) Brewing hate, increasing immigration, and economic hardship among
working-class poor whites should have easily indicated that this would
happen, and we ignored signs for decades leading to this colossal failure.

c) Clinton ran a presumptuous and disrespectful campaign and delusionally
thought the young people and black people who elected Obama would support
her racist, classist, neoliberal imperialist ass.  She was a catastrophic
strategic failure by the DNC who ignored vast amounts of angry poor people
and demonstrably rigged the primary against a populist socialist who was
never given a chance but had leagues more support from the youth.


>
>> >
>> *Can I lick your boots??*
>>
>
> If that's your thing sure.
>

Ready and willing.


> >
>> *Seriously though, what would it take for you to stop posting about
>> this? *
>>
>
> Trump resigning dying or being kicked out of office.
>
>

And complaining here helps that how?  Please stop.


>
>> >
>> *Other countries aren't even surprised by this because they've seen our
>> idiotic moves leading up to this? *
>>
>
> No there were surprised. We've done dumb things before and we've had bad
> presidents
> before but Trump is unique
>

Again--if you look at what passes for entertainment these days, and how
every piece of media is full of bullying and self-hate, you'd see why this
happened and why it is a deserved and necessary part of our reckoning.

You would do well to listen more.  At this point you could be replaced by a
spam email bot.

A PROPOSAL:

We of the ExI list hereby declare that every thread herein shall be
appended by a theoretical John K Clark post complaining about Trump or the
2016 election.  Because we already know the contents of the message, it
will not be necessary for Mr. Clark to add a duplicate of this theoretical
post.  If he has anything DIFFERENT to add, he may per thread, petition to
attach an addendum of NEW information to said theoretical post.  Electoral
college votes for this decision will allotted in relation to how many hard
boiled eggs each voter is able to consume in a single sitting, one vote per
egg.

I move to introduce this "JKC complaint amendment" to the ExI
constitution.  All in favor, please raise your favorite hand.
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