[ExI] Rick Warren on religion

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 6 22:12:12 UTC 2018

I am guilty and ashamed of myself - please forgive.  I found one study (and
did NOT read anything but the Abstract) and left it at that.  Sorry.  I
will do so and consider your criticisms and try to answer your, now our,
questions about obedience.  A professional lapse.  Getting lazy.

bill w

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM Stuart LaForge <avant at sollegro.com> wrote:

> BillW wrote:
> > So you are saying, I think, that obedience is best obtained in a
> religious
> > context when the demands are given by a similarly religious person, and
> > not that obedience is more of a generalized tendency in religious persons
> > (which is what I thought you were saying first)
> No actually you were right the first time. I am saying that religious
> people are more prone to obey those they percieve to have authority. The
> caveat however is that the authority must be perceived to be ligitimate.
> And that perception of legitimate authority is largely subjective. Thus
> someone who is very strongly religious (like a fundamentalist extremist)
> might not recognize secular authority (like a scientist) as being
> legitimate.
> This is merely a hypothesis on my part but it is largely the result of
> anecdotal evidence from observations of the religious people that I know.
> I don't consider the study you cited to be statistically sound enough to
> draw any real conclusions regarding my hypothesis upon, since it had a
> very small sample size. For example, the there were only 4 or 5 "extremely
> non-religious" students involved in the study.
> But the data does suggest my idea might have some merit. This could
> explain why nationalistic sentiments are often combined with religious
> sentiment as in "For God and country!", "God and King Richard!", and other
> such common phrases.
> Stuart LaForge
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