[ExI] Rick Warren on religion

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Sun Dec 9 20:39:59 UTC 2018

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 12:38 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>

> Well, for one thing, people lie, including children.  Muslim children are
> Muslim because their parents are.

Sure some do, but I don't think it's credible to maintain this represents
more than a tiny minority because when they have children of their own they
drill the exact same thing into their head.  Do you really think this could
go on for 100 generations with nobody believing what they say? I think most
Muslims are sincere, I also thing sincerity is a vastly overrated virtue.

> > In the case of the Muslims, you take your life in your hands if you
> deny your parents religion.

Yes but why should all those Muslims want to murder non-believers if they
really thought it was all a load of crap?

> I do wonder what is happening in Ireland.  The church there has been so
> guilty of sexual activity with children that many are not going to Mass,
> but I'll bet they put "Catholic' in forms.

But they don't just put it on forms, they might not go to mass every Sunday
but most STILL think Judgement Day will happen and expect Catholic theology
to prevail in that court and a Catholic priest would be their best lawyer
to prepare their case. Perhaps not as many believe this as before it became
known that so many Catholic priests were pedophiles but even today the vast
majority of Catholics in Ireland STILL send their children to Catholic
schools taught by Catholic priests. Go Figure.

> > So I still need real data.

If everybody always lies about what they consciously believe then there can
never be any real data about it because the only thing we know about what
others are consciousness of and what they believe is by listening to what
they say.

John K Clark
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