[ExI] Forbidden Words

[William Flynn Wallace]

…If I Google ( liberal conservative IQ ) the first 4 hits bring up studies
that say liberals are smarter, but to tell the truth I don't think those
studies or the one you mentioned about how being conservative correlates
with IQ are worth much because the word "conservative" no longer means
anything. …John K Clark


First, why do we care about the average IQs?  Looking to put some group
down?  Tiny group differences mean next to nothing when we go to judge
individuals.

If you want a truly confusing ride of ideas, try Wikipedia:  look up
conservative and liberal.  The changes that have occurred in the last 200
years are enlightening but confusing.  Even today these terms mean
different things here and in Europe and Britain.

Ask a conservative what kind of ideas started this country and see if he
can say the word 'liberal'.

Here in Mississippi, small government Repubs are alive and well and
destroying our state.  Each legislative session more and more services are
being cut, roads and bridges get nothing even though we have the worst
roads in the civilized world.  Jackson has potholes that were here when I
went to school in 1964 - more of a third world city.  Don't come here.  We
lose graduates of all types to adjoining states but they look for ways to
keep them without actually raising their pay!!!

bill w

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 1:12 PM, <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On
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> *Sent:* Saturday, February 10, 2018 10:01 AM
> *To:* rafal at smigrodzki.org; ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Forbidden Words
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> On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 2:30 AM, Rafal Smigrodzki <
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> http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/11/politics-and-iq-
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> 2.7 IQ points is not within sampling error, as long as our sample is large
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> >…If I Google ( liberal conservative IQ ) the first 4 hits bring up
> studies that say liberals are smarter, but to tell the truth I don't think
> those studies or the one you mentioned about how being
> conservative correlates with IQ are worth much because the word
> "conservative" no longer means anything. …John K Clark
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> That’s part of the problem but I see something even bigger: there is no
> clear way to establish a means of averaging the population.  How do you get
> a representative cross section of people of a particular political
> persuasion to take an IQ test?  How do you describe the results?  Average
> the scores?  What if some sneaky researcher got the audience of some
> daytime game show to take a test?  What if you did a test at a Boy Scout
> meeting?  You can make that test come out any way you want.
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> So this goes back to a question I had earlier: if we wanted to do these
> kinds of studies, do we have anything already in place which we can kinda
> think of as a proxy for collective IQ?  I came up with one idea: statewide
> SAT scores.  We also know how a particular state votes (as a group.)  So…
> looks to me like we can (kinda sorta) correlate those, if we can somehow
> figure out how to compensate for spending per student and for the fact that
> some states require all the students to take the SAT, some only have the
> college-bound crowd take it, and some states have all but the
> known-learning-impaired students take it.
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