[ExI] Science or Scientism?

[William Flynn Wallace]

scientists freely admit that although it makes up 70% of the universe they
have no idea what the hell it is, it is the deepest mystery in physics.

 John K Clark
Yes, Good.  Now if some people would get off their high horse and quit
trashing other professions the world might be a tad better.  Trying to do
better science is always a good goal.  bill w

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:51 PM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:23 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > *Develop a measuring instrument.  Use it until you have proved its
>> reliability.  Apply it to some problem and find that measurements correlate
>> with something important, which means that you can use it to predict that
>> something.  Is this not science?   **Conclusion:  if you can measure
>> something  and predict something with some accuracy, I say you have done
>> science.*
>>
>
> I agree with that but I think the believers in strict instrumentalism push
> this too far, they don't want me to say anything about atoms or electrons
> or electricity, I should just say if I change the arrangement of a
> experiment in a certain way the needle on a voltmeter will change from 7.4
> to 7.2 and I should not draw any larger conclusions larger than that.
>
>
>> > *Science does not imply certain areas of study.  Repeat - NOT.*
>>
>
> Yes, science is defined by the method to study not the area being studied.
> If you're using the scientific method then you're doing science.
>
> * > (personally, I'd like to see measurements of dark energy, and other
>> concepts made up so that the theoretical equations make sense - some of
>> these concepts make no more sense than saying God did it)*
>>
>
> But they've got to call it something and dark energy is as good a name as
> any, scientists freely admit that although it makes up 70% of the universe
> they have no idea what the hell it is, it is the deepest mystery in physics.
>
>  John K Clark
>
>
>
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