[ExI] young people having less sex

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Wed Nov 28 04:30:12 UTC 2018


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:35 AM SR Ballard <sen.otaku at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Also, there are confounding variables here as well. You know the group of
> women most likely to remain virgins until marriage? Religious women. You
> know the group most likely to find divorce socially unacceptable despite it
> being legal? Religious women. You know who are trained to believe that they
> are the property of their husbands and should submit to abuse? Religious
> women.
>
> ### Well, yes, being Old Order Amish increases your likelihood of familial
bliss. But that doesn't invalidate the statistics and does not change the
advice. If you want to have an outcome, be one of the people who are most
likely to have that outcome. For example, if you can curb your libido, and
intentionally marry a woman with low libido, religious or not, you will
most likely not be cheated on and will remain married, if somewhat tepidly.

I need to object to the characterization of religious women as being
trained to submit to abuse. Major religions exhort not only for women to
obey their husbands but also for men to respect their women. To go back to
the Amish, their women are on average happier than mainstream Americans,
even without running water in the home, and that's not because they are
submitting to abuse. They are not property, being closer to wards rather
than chattels. If you want to point out abuse in religious societies, you
have to go outside the Western world and mention for example Hindu and
Muslim women. Who, surprisingly, also tend to be happier than many groups
of Western women, once you correct for differences in average incomes.

Or, you know, you could take yourselves to the clinic before having sex?
> It’s not as if she’d be embarrassed.
> Do you know any former prostitutes?
>

### I used to. Haven't kept up with them lately.
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