[ExI] From Arms Race to Joint Venture

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 24 20:12:16 UTC 2018


Just because the machines we think with are made of fat and water doesn't
make them any more, or less, special than ones made of silicon and plastic.
Just different.  Ben

I agreed with John Clark on this issue some time ago.  What I think we can
never tell is whether some machine can feel the same way we do.  We have
difficulty enough telling that between two people.  Give a machine the
exact same input you give an identical machine and you will get identical
results.  Not with people.

Feed exactly the same input into the ears of two people and they will
experience different things.  If I gave my audiologist my hearing aid I
would expect that he would hear the noise that I hear.  Wrong.  Learned
that from my audiologist.

bill w

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:07 PM Ben Zaiboc <ben at zaiboc.net> wrote:

>   bill w wrote:
> "How could a computer of any complexity experience fear?"
>
>
> How could a construct of organic molecules of any complexity feel fear?
> How could a being made of beer cans and string? or plasma and magnetic
> fields? It's the same problem, no matter what you're made of.
>
> Just because the machines we think with are made of fat and water
> doesn't make them any more, or less, special than ones made of silicon
> and plastic. Just different.
>
> --
> Ben Zaiboc
>
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