[ExI] just a thought or two

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 29 16:28:27 UTC 2018

They are even disapproving famous people from centuries ago because
they didn't conform to modern standards.  bill k

I was chided awhile back for using modern morals to judge Odysseus.  While
he may have been a hero at the time, killing all the men, raping all the
women, enslaving all the children in the villages he raided should be great
crimes in any era.  And poor Thomas Jefferson and his slave mistress and
partner in creating several children.  It maybe was custom at the time to
use slaves any way you wanted, but now - nope.  I do think he should be
forgiven for not freeing his slaves.  He had put his estate and family into
deep debt and probably could not bring himself to just give away all that
money.  And while George Washington did free his slaves, a bit of digging
shows that his attitude towards slaves was terrible by modern standards
(one in particular, if you know that story about a slave who ran away from

The question Bill K raises:  is one set of morals in some way better than
another?  I say, of course.

bill w

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:19 AM BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 at 16:37, spike wrote:
> >
> > Law enforcement and government already has everything that is public.
> My take on it is that our own former ExI poster Julian Assange was
> absolutely right: transparency is the best disinfectant.
> >
> > Now we have all these new tools to help fight crime, which can also be
> in government and law enforcement.  Consider the case of Carter Page, where
> the FBI got a warrant to open his email on questionable evidence.  As far
> as I know there has been no legal consequences for that (certainly
> consequences, but the perpetrators have not been indicted as far as I know.)
> >
> > Unlike any time in history, we get to see the inner workings as all that
> plays out, and we understand the importance of limiting the scope of
> government, in order to prevent corruption due to excess power.
> >
> > I am good with transparency: I will show them my life, all of it that is
> public.  In return they must hold to the limits imposed by the constitution.
> >
> Too many laws makes too many criminals.
> Quote:
> There are so many regulations and criminal statutes on the books that
> a civil-liberties expert and lawyer, Harvey Silverglate, thinks that
> the average American commits three felonies a day, and they often are
> not even aware they are breaking the law. That is, not until a federal
> agency begins an investigation and they are indicted.
> -----
> Look at the Kavanaugh circus. Apart from the three felonies per day,
> everyone has incidents from their 'wild-oats' period that must never
> be mentioned. Especially if social mores have changed over the years
> so that previous OK actions have now become violently non-PC.
> They are even disapproving famous people from centuries ago because
> they didn't conform to modern standards.
> BillK
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