[ExI] Fwd: Chalmers

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Wed Dec 18 22:43:36 UTC 2019


On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 02:07, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Hi Statish,
>
> My prediction is that very soon after experimentalists start doing
> observation of the physics in the brain in a non-qualia blind way, they
> will discover which of all their descriptions of physics are a description
> of redness.  This will also include the discovery of how computational
> binding of redness and greenness is physically achieved.  This will falsify
> functionalism, as nobody will ever be able to produce a redness experience,
> in a substrate independent way, and it will never be possible to do
> computational binding on any such functional redness and greenness, as
> required to have composite qualitative conscious experiences.
>
>
> Your way of thinking is both not falsifiable and not verifiable,
> resulting in the impossibly hard problems Chalmers has become famous four
> claiming exist.
>

A logical argument can be valid whether or not the premises are true:

"If all men are mortal and Socrates is a man, then Socrates is mortal".
This is true whether or not in fact all men are mortal and whether or not
Socrates is a man. If you challenge it, you have to challenge the logic.

-- 
Stathis Papaioannou
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