[ExI] fermi question alive and well

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Fri Mar 29 16:13:08 UTC 2019

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:01 AM Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com>

>> We are looking for a civilization that makes use of high frequency light
>> and outputs low frequency light as a waste product, and we know exactly how
>> to look for it, with infrared and microwave telescopes, but we've never
>> seen even a hint of it.
> *> An ant looking only for giant anthills would find no evidence in their
> opinion of our civilization. *

That's because ants are dumb and don't even know the difference between
civilization and non-civilization.

> 1) Alternate energy sources/entropy sinks which we do not yet understand

When you reject the law that says Entropy always increases you're so you're
invoking not only new physics but new logic and you're doing it so you can
explain a mystery *THAT DOES NOT EXIST*. The great silence is not a mystery
because the argument ET must exist because astronomy can come up with some
big numbers doesn't hold water because biology can come up with even bigger

> 2) Deliberate cloaking
> The second might be more likely.

Wow, we must be hyper important for ET to go to all the trouble of trashing
the laws of physics and logic that operate the universe just so they can
keep us ignorant!

> "We know exactly how to look for incoming enemy planes, and we don't see
> a hint of them", then a stealth bomber came and blew up whoever said that

If that ET stealth bomber can violate the second law of thermodynamics then
it is far more ridiculous than a flying carpet because the carpet only
violates the laws of conservation of momentum and energy, but when you mess
around with the second law you're messing around with the very laws of
logic. I predict that if the multiverse exists some of the laws of physics
may be different in other universes but the one thing they'd all have in
common is the second law.

 John K Clark
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/attachments/20190329/049f69bd/attachment.htm>

More information about the extropy-chat mailing list