[ExI] dead weight

[William Flynn Wallace]

I am astonished it took so long to get good educational curricula online,
but here it is.

 spike

Who doesn't require a teacher?  Someone who is learning facts.  I very much
doubt that there exists an AI who can adjust to the student's level of
thinking - not just answering questions.  I have no doubt that many
students on Khan need no teachers *for what they are learning.  *Is there
any data on what level of student learns best on Khan and who doesn't?  In
my opinion, it's the bottom end of the curve that need the most help when
it comes to going beyond facts to theories and other abstractions. Perhaps
even the lower 3/4s of the curve.

I have many doubts that any AI can construct a test of critical thinking or
anything else beyond facts.  Humans are making up the tests on Khan,
right?  Anything beyond regurgitation, that is.  In my upper level classes
I required original examples and they could not be close to the ones I
provided or the book did.  This was the hardest for the students and
sometimes the hardest to evaluate.


I will give up these arguments when we reach the Singularity (not in my
time).

bill w

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:45 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:

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> it is only a matter of time before a machine can do your job, whatever it
> is, better than you can. john clark
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> This assumes that AIs will become as creative and original as people.  It
> will take that to be a good teacher at an advanced level.  Yes, presenting
> facts is easy.  But thinking outside the box (excuse the trite cliche') is
> what separates good teachers from superior ones.  And as for grading essay
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> But if you are right then there are no jobs for anyone.
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> BillW, I invite you to look around in Khan Academy.  It’s online, it’s
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> Go ahead, dig around in there.  Never mind all the traditional models of
> grading and finding ways to do accreditation and all the stuff schools have
> always done.  Look at what is now available free for anyone anywhere in the
> world, and consider the places in the world taking the most advantage of
> it: those places which have struggled to provide adequate schools and
> teachers.  Now, perhaps there is a marvelously adequate (and in my opinion
> superior in many respects) alternative that does not require a school
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> If a student from India or China or Africa masters everything currently
> available free in Khan Academy, I would bet on that student in an SAT
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