[ExI] ExI] are we publishing?

[William Flynn Wallace]

 In my mind, we have already established that lying with
regard to sex isn't even really lying, it's... emmmm... you know... it's
what... we humans do when we are trying to coax a mate.  Honest people can
lie in that particular area and still be considered honest.   spike

While some men will say anything to get sex, this is a bad idea.  Some of
it is illegal.  But if the women is unsure of herself beforehand, she will
feel conflicted afterwards, about herself and about you.  Do you care about
that?  If you don't you are a sexual predator with little human empathy.  I
strongly disagree with the last sentence Spike wrote.  You are talking
about taking advantage of a person and apparently don't care.  Yeah, men
will be OK with it.  Will women?  I think not.  It all comes down to what
the woman thinks.  It is NOT OK if you are lying to get her to comply if
you think she wants it too.  Of course she does.  She is human.  Humans
like sex a lot - even women, if you know what to do with them - or care.
There seems to be too many men who just don't care about anything but Mr.
Needy.  Wham bam...

bill w

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 12:50 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
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> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] ExI] are we publishing?
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> On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 16:18, Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>… I am not terribly happy with Julian since he put his thumb on the
> > scale that elected Trump.  … Keith
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> >…Well, I suppose exposing government corruption probably did help elect
> Trump.  :(  BillK
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> Paradox is piled upon irony in this weird case.  Julian damn well did
> publish classified info, but they never really hoped to convict him on
> that, because… the New York Times published the highly-classified Pentagon
> Papers a long time ago, and they were US citizens, and they didn’t get
> charged.
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> Yet… what Julian’s adversaries really had the heartburn about was his
> publishing information that was not even classified, hell it wasn’t even
> properly secured (Password is not a good password.)  If one argues that the
> consequences were enormous, that in itself does not establish the crime, or
> even who is guilty.  Does the guy who set his password to Password share
> any guilt?  In my eyes he does.  In systems where the username is patterned
> (such as first initial last name at something dot org) there are software
> routines that go down thru guessing the few hundred most common passwords.
> Password is the most common password.  OK somebody got in.  Surprise!
> Sheesh.
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> So… Julian published information that was not classified and was not even
> properly secured, given to him by a third party.  Result: the leading POTUS
> candidate “joked” about murdering him with a drone.
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> OK suppose you are Julian and you read that.  I can imagine he was not
> ROTFL-ing.  I vaguely imagine he had no trouble sitting right there in his
> chair, perhaps not even a giggle from that hilarious joke as he sat there
> in that de-facto maximum security prison with no way out, thinking:  Oh how
> funny!  The USA, with aaaaallll its agents and aaaalllll its covert this
> and that, and aaaaaalllll its military technology, is about to elect a
> Commander in Chief who jokes about killing me, jocularity how hilarious is
> that little gag that hundreds of millions of people read about, any one of
> which could come in here and kill me…
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> Looks to me like that little joke was the western equivalent of a stealth
> fatwa.  I wouldn’t find that a damn bit funny, and perhaps just a wee bit…
> disconcerting.  But hey, I am that way, heh heh, so unreasonably suspicious
> I am.
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> In light of that, I can vaguely imagine Julian would prefer that
> particular candidate would lose that election, even if he had no particular
> viewpoint with respect to another country’s politics.  Ja?
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