[ExI] Vint Cerf on AI, at ORNL

[William Flynn Wallace]

Well, John, knowing the rules is not exactly the case when a situation is
novel.  Here's what I think should happen:

The AI plays a program that is highly successful at chess.  The AI is told
every time it moves in a way that is illegal and of course it notices the
moves of the other player.  It is told when failure occurs: piece lost,
checkmate.

Now that might be really simple for a good AI.  I wouldn't know.  It might
figure out the rules and scoring in a short period of time and then proceed
as usual.  But that way at least it is novel.

bill w

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:30 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 6:22 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> > Seemingly missing from all the intelligence definitions in your post is
>> the ability to adapt to novel situations, which to me is really important.
>>
>
> If you had never even known there was a game called "chess" but then one
> day you were shown the basic rules of the game (and nothing else) and then
> told you had 24 hours to teach yourself to become the best Chess playing
> entity on the planet, and you did exactly that, and then you did the same
> thing with GO and Shogi (both more complex than Chess) wouldn't you say
> that proved you had the ability to adapt to novel situations? Well
> AlphaZero did all that and it didn't use brute force to do it either.
>
> Stockfish is another Chess program but unlike AlphaZero it didn't teach
> itself humans did. Stockfish could easily beat any human player but it
> couldn't beat AlphaZero despite the fact that Stockfish was running on a
> faster computer and could evaluate 70,000,000 positions a second
> while AlphaZero's much smaller computer could only do 80,000.
>
> And AI is becoming less narrow and brittle every day. GO is played on a 19
> by 19 grid, but if you changed it to 20 by 20 or 18 by 18 and gave it
> another 24 hours to teach itself AlphaZero would be the best player in the
> world at that new game too, and all without any human help. It's true
> AlphaZero is not infinitely adaptable, but then humans aren't either.
>
>  John K Clark
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