[ExI] Update on the Hawaiian observatory shutdown

[Dan TheBookMan]

You seem to have a different concept of “unfettered.” Presumably, SR meant unfettered in the conventional sense: access which is _uncontrolled_ by others in terms of both scope and timing. The way you use the term would mean that something like a public tour of the Theo Chocolate factory in Seattle is ”unfettered access.” In fact, there’s a tour guide and you’re not really allowed on most of the factory floor. (Which is a good thing as I don’t want tourists sneezing or getting their body hairs in my chocolate.;)

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> On Sep 20, 2019, at 10:36 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:04 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> >> From the law you quote it seems to me that 'access to the site' does not include sole possession of it or ability to determine the use of it.  Just access.  bill w
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>> > Are they allowed unfettered access to the insides of the observatories, and the surrounding land?
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> Not only do the native Hawaiians have unfettered access everybody does, they give public tours of the observatory, or rather they did before the barbarian attack. The astronomers need courage to visit their observatory now and I doubt their insurance would allow public tours anymore because of potential liability claims.
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> By the way, protesting telescopes has now become fashionable and apparently looks like fun to a lot of people. In La Palma on the Canary Islands (the distant second best observing site in the northern hemisphere) for the first time protesters have appeared and they are determined to stop any telescope being built on their mountain too. And so the ignorance plague spreads.
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> John K Clark
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