[ExI] Update on the Hawaiian observatory shutdown

[William Flynn Wallace]

In fact, there’s a tour guide and you’re not really allowed on most of the
factory floor. (Which is a good thing as I don’t want tourists sneezing or
getting their body hairs in my chocolate.;)

Regards,

Dan

You do know that most things have an acceptable level of rat hairs and
feces?  Ditto roaches?
bill w

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:25 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> You seem to have a different concept of “unfettered.” Presumably, SR meant
> unfettered in the conventional sense: access which is _uncontrolled_ by
> others in terms of both scope and timing. The way you use the term would
> mean that something like a public tour of the Theo Chocolate factory in
> Seattle is ”unfettered access.” In fact, there’s a tour guide and you’re
> not really allowed on most of the factory floor. (Which is a good thing as
> I don’t want tourists sneezing or getting their body hairs in my
> chocolate.;)
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>    Sample my Kindle books at:
>
> http://author.to/DanUst
>
> On Sep 20, 2019, at 10:36 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> 
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:04 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> >> From the law you quote it seems to me that 'access to the site' does
>> not include sole possession of it or ability to determine the use of it.
>> Just access.  bill w
>>
>> > Are they allowed unfettered access to the insides of the
>> observatories, and the surrounding land?
>>
>
> Not only do the native Hawaiians have unfettered access everybody does,
> they give public tours of the observatory, or rather they did before the
> barbarian attack. The astronomers need courage to visit their observatory
> now and I doubt their insurance would allow public tours anymore because of
> potential liability claims.
>
> By the way, protesting telescopes has now become fashionable and
> apparently looks like fun to a lot of people. In La Palma on the Canary
> Islands (the distant second best observing site in the northern hemisphere)
> for the first time protesters have appeared and they are determined to
> stop any telescope being built on their mountain too. And so the
> ignorance plague spreads.
>
> John K Clark
>
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