[ExI] ccp struggles

[William Flynn Wallace]

Nowhere that I know of do we have a militia.  bill w

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 7:41 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
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> *>…*But “the right to bear arms” does not protect other rights, as you
> claimed, unless there is an additional right to use the arms against agents
> of the state who the individual believes are acting unconstitutionally. If
> the police decided to force the gun shops to close the gun shop owners
> would not have had the right to shoot the police on the grounds that in
> their opinion the police are acting unconstitutionally.
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> Oh OK I see what you meant, cool.  We were on two completely different
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> Times like these are unusual, so the legalities are not well known, but
> gun shop owners are specialty lawyers in a way.  The constables who come to
> ask them to close have only the option of issuing a 50 dollar fine if they
> refuse, a misdemeanor, where constables do not use force.  That task of
> closing businesses has nothing to do with the right to bear arms.  The cops
> fully recognize (and support) the right to bear arms, and the rights of the
> steady stream of customers walking out with guns and ammo.  Cops don’t want
> to raid a home unarmed where they suspect the homeowner is armed.  That
> would be very dangerous.
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> The California governor issued orders that non-essential businesses
> close.  Gun shops point out that they are essential businesses, because a
> well-regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state.
> California is a free state, always has been, even before 1863 when Mr.
> Lincoln declared all states free.  The gun shops arm the militia.  The
> militia is necessary.  Therefore the gun shops are necessary.  They can
> stay open.  The constables chose to not fight that in court.
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