[ExI] Government force and the constitution (was: more deaths...)

[Will Steinberg]

I agree, but I don't think it would be a 100% conviction like it would with
anthrax or something like that.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 16:53 William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> will wrote:  I think a case could be made for not prosecuting someone
> stockpiling weapons and conventional bombs
> Hah!  Do you think that since the gov already monitors fertilizer sales
> that they would pay no attention to people buying bombs?  Legally, I dunno,
> but I would bet that that person will have the FBI on his neck the rest of
> his life, should he live so long.   bill w
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:33 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> All this talk about the constitution's bearing on WMDs is pointless.  If
>> you have one, you will be attacked by the government.  Period.  If you're
>> amassing weapons--same deal.  Just look at what happened in Waco.
>>
>> In the end it is all about power.  We have a social contract with the
>> government.  Each party has certain kinds of power.  The government's power
>> is derived from the people, but as it grows, it becomes self-sustaining.
>>
>> One of the things the government can do with all the power (literally, as
>> in physics: work/time) amassed from us is stockpile a huge amount of
>> weapons and pay people to use them in enforcement.  If the government
>> decides you are violating the social contract--well, they make the rules.
>> No legal argument will fly in the case of someone stockpiling something
>> like anthrax or nuclear weapons.
>>
>> I think a case could be made for not prosecuting someone stockpiling
>> weapons and conventional bombs, but that could be a tough case if you are
>> engaging in ANY kind of anti-government activity, even just protesting or
>> posting online.  The government has the power to get the best lawyers, do
>> the best investigative work on you and all your skeletons, and even
>> influence the media against you.
>>
>> The constitution is more fragile than you may think.
>>
>>
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