[ExI] Government force and the constitution (was: more deaths...)

[William Flynn Wallace]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:23 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I agree, but I don't think it would be a 100% conviction like it would
> with anthrax or something like that.
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 16:53 William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> will wrote:  I think a case could be made for not prosecuting someone
>> stockpiling weapons and conventional bombs
>> Hah!  Do you think that since the gov already monitors fertilizer sales
>> that they would pay no attention to people buying bombs?  Legally, I dunno,
>> but I would bet that that person will have the FBI on his neck the rest of
>> his life, should he live so long.   bill w
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:33 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> All this talk about the constitution's bearing on WMDs is pointless.  If
>>> you have one, you will be attacked by the government.  Period.  If you're
>>> amassing weapons--same deal.  Just look at what happened in Waco.
>>>
>>> In the end it is all about power.  We have a social contract with the
>>> government.  Each party has certain kinds of power.  The government's power
>>> is derived from the people, but as it grows, it becomes self-sustaining.
>>>
>>> One of the things the government can do with all the power (literally,
>>> as in physics: work/time) amassed from us is stockpile a huge amount of
>>> weapons and pay people to use them in enforcement.  If the government
>>> decides you are violating the social contract--well, they make the rules.
>>> No legal argument will fly in the case of someone stockpiling something
>>> like anthrax or nuclear weapons.
>>>
>>> I think a case could be made for not prosecuting someone stockpiling
>>> weapons and conventional bombs, but that could be a tough case if you are
>>> engaging in ANY kind of anti-government activity, even just protesting or
>>> posting online.  The government has the power to get the best lawyers, do
>>> the best investigative work on you and all your skeletons, and even
>>> influence the media against you.
>>>
>>> The constitution is more fragile than you may think.
>>>
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