[ExI] Atheism again (was: How many current members of ExI?)
ben at zaiboc.net
Sun Apr 19 16:10:19 UTC 2020
On 19/04/2020 12:51, Guiio Prisco wrote:
> Strong beliefs (including atheism) ...
We've already had this discussion. Atheism, by definition, is /not/ a
belief. Your later comments ("atheists or believers...", "atheists and
believers...") admit as much. Saying things like the above is simply
If someone believes there are no gods, they are not an atheist. If
someone refuses to change their opinion when presented with
incontrovertible evidence that contradicts their opinion, that's not
atheism. If it can be proven that a god exists, then accepting that the
god exists is no longer believing in it. An atheist can say "Yes, I now
know that this god exists", without becoming a non-atheist, as long as
there is proof for the existence of the god.
"there's no way to talk atheists or believers out of their convictions,
and discussions are much more likely to end in name calling than in
You said it. In this case, the name-calling is the "there's no way to
talk atheists ... out of their convictions" bit. The opinions of
atheists are not convictions. They are evidence-based opinions.
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