[ExI] Who has a vote that counts?

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Sat Aug 1 23:20:59 UTC 2020

Over a certain amount, there is no difference, as it would be enough to
ruin the world whether it was 1000 or 10000 bombs.  What IS different is
the delivery methods (like 'hypersonic' missiles,) which are being improved
all the time, as well as delivery platforms (like submarines.)  As well,
the number of countries with nuclear weapons have increased since 1962.  As
well, there are now multiple states with nukes who are not party to the
NPT.  As well, there are likely hundreds to thousands of pilfered cold-war
warheads in the hands of god knows who.  And yes, the leaders are crazier
than ever before.  I would say we are much worse off right now than we ever
were in '62.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 7:02 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:23 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> *> Now, there is an active threat to all countries in the world, all the
>> time, many times more severe than the Cuban Missile Crisis.  The Cuban
>> Missile Crisis is dog shit compared to the state of nuclear armament today.*
> In 1962 the USA had 6,300 Megatons worth of H-bombs, and the USSR had
> about 3000.  The Hiroshima bomb had a yield of about .01 megatons and it
> killed at least 100,000 people. Today all the world's nuclear weapons
> stockpiles combined equal to about 5000 Megatons, that dog shit still
> smells but only 5/9 as bad so things have improved, although I must admit
> that in 1962 neither Kennedy nor Khrushchev was as stupid or ignorant as
> Donald Trump.
>   John K Clark
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