[ExI] atheists/religion

[William Flynn Wallace]

Consoled?  They want advice of the most serious kind.  That is what we have
been discussing:  just what principles do we have that supplant the ones we
originally got (most of us) from religion.  What are you going to say to
them?  The secular humanists are a good start as are the extropians Spike
mentioned.  And you can go a long way with the Golden Rule (no, people,
don't tell me the exceptions we all know about).  Also, I see in the news a
movement trying to get a monument to the Bill of Rights on the Mall in
D.C.  Support that if you can.  Bill of R is a good start for
principles,mostly of the rationalist kind.   I also think the UN has
something like a bill of rights.  bill w

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:13 AM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> When my grandpa dies, considering my uncle died last week, and someone
> tells me, “I feel so sorry for you.” I wouldn’t see that as patronizing. In
> the beforetimes it would probably be accompanied by a hug, which I don’t
> normally care for.
>
> Context makes it patronizing or not.
>
> If someone comes to you and says something like, “I’m an athiest and very
> happy with my life”, then of course it is patronizing. But at the same time
> if someone says something like, “I don’t believe in God anymore, how am I
> going to live my life?” Well, that’s different and they probably want to be
> consoled.
>
> SR Ballard
>
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:48 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:19 AM Dave Sill via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> >> *I didn’t say anything negative about atheists. I said that I think
>>> they are sad, and therefore I feel sorry for them.*
>>>
>>
>> >That's patronizing.
>>
>
> Regardless of the subject it's ALWAYS patronizing when somebody says "I
> feel so sorry for you", it's hypocritical too because hearing such a
> statement never makes anybody feel better, and it isn't said to express
> compassion it's said to express contempt.
>
>  John K Clark
>
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