[ExI] 3 kt?

Darin Sunley dsunley at gmail.com
Sun Aug 9 21:24:47 UTC 2020


I've seen the theory floated that Hezbollah were indeed storing missiles
next to the confiscated ammonium nitrate ["fireworks", my left gluteus!]
because A ) they knew Israel wouldn't hit an arms depot there for fear of
setting off the ammonium nitrate and/or B ) the ammonium nitrate was
intended to be a component of the missile warheads.

Either way, the people of Beirut seem to have some legitimate grievances
against their government and their government's violent friends.

The one blessing in all of this is that at only ~150 casualties, this could
easily have been a /lot/ worse.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:44 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> An alternative explanation proposing a Hezbollah arms depot.   One of the
> claims is that ammonium nitrate smoke is yellow, not the reddish/orange
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> I'd be interested to hear Spike's thoughts on this thread.   It's pretty
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> https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1292475515308310530
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> Hi Dylan,
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> I have some more study and calculation to do, but that site you posted has
> some really useful info, such as a way to estimate the velocity of that
> shock wave.  I need to study the size of those buildings in the photo to
> see if I can estimate how far the boat is from the blast, then I can
> estimate the time it takes the wave to arrive at the boat, to pick off a
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> Regarding yellow smoke for ammonium nitrate: I would interpret the big
> reddish column as other stuff burning before the heat ever reached the
> ammonium nitrate.  It wouldn’t be burning NH4NO3, then exploding.  I would
> think the stuff would explode as soon as any of it got hot enough, then
> that detonates the rest of it.
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> Dunno man.  We have some measurements and calculations to do before we
> know for sure, but it looks consistent with ammonium nitrate to me.
> Granted 3000 tons of the stuff is a lotta fertilizer.  That would take a
> lotta room to store all that, so it would hafta be a big warehouse.
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> Those are some astonishing videos.  Lotsa physics in explosions.
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