[ExI] Free will was: Everett worlds

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Tue Aug 25 21:49:07 UTC 2020


On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 06:03, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:58 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 3:44 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> *> Also, there do appear to be some truly random aspects to the
>>> universe, such as the precise timing of atomic decay.  There could be a
>>> free will behind those,*
>>>
>>
>> That makes no sense. If there's ANYTHING behind the decision then it's
>> not random. Random means an effect without a cause.
>>
>
> Truly random *from our perspective and ability to measure it*.  Doesn't
> mean there isn't a cause behind it, just not a cause that we can see.
> Which is pretty much what the source of free will, assuming there is one,
> would have to be.
>

Determined means fixed due to prior events, such that if the prior events
happen the determined event necessarily happens. It is also called caused.

Undetermined means not fixed due to prior events, so that if the prior
events happen the undetermined event does not necessarily happen. It is
also called uncaused or random.

“Random” is used in other ways but this is the meaning in physics, and the
relevant meaning in regard free will.

> --
Stathis Papaioannou
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