[ExI] Mental Phenomena

[Brent Allsop]

Hi John,
Oh, OK.  I was misunderstanding what you meant by "pure numbers".  I added
the "reight?" on the end, anticipating this possibility, so thanks
for pointing that out.

Would I also be right in pointing out that you can't have "pure qualia" and
that  the only way we can have knowledge of redness, is if we have
something physical, that is the conscious knowledge of redness?


On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:27 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:11 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> *> John,*
>> *By saying "that is a physical impossibility" you are proving that you
>> are ignoring the fact that RGB(FF,00,00) and RGB(00,FF,00) are "pure
>> numbers" and that there are #3 robots, today, using nothing but these kinds
>> of "pure numbers" for their knowledge which enables them to pick
>> strawberries, right?*
>>
>
> *WRONG!! *No computer no robot no human and no brain uses nothing but
> pure numbers to perform calculations, they all need matter, that's why
> INTEL spends billions of dollars to organize Silicon atoms in such a way
> that they can. You can't have a Turing Machine without a machine and you
> can't have a machine without matter.
>
> John K Clark
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