[ExI] Possible seat of consciousness found
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Sun Feb 16 16:24:16 UTC 2020
The binding you're speaking of can be fully explained by neuronal
wiring/circuits/networks. You don't need your definition of where qualia
sit to explain why we don't have access to subconscious information.
Have you looked into brain damage of various areas and the outcomes in
terms of your theory?
On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 11:10 AM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> Hi John,
> The goal here is to understand a fairly simple idea, which you said you
> are still struggling with.
> It's probably because when I try to describe it, you keep ignoring what is
> important and going off on completely unrelated tangents.
> The idea is the binding of multiple qualia, like redness and grenness (and
> a bunch of other knowledge) to make a bound composite experience where you
> are consciously aware of all of that. The reason you are not aware of
> information in the subconscious (or anywhere else outside of what you are
> consciously aware of), is because it is not "bound" into your awareness,
> the same way all the stuff you are aware of is.
> It's not about evolution (other than in a tangential way), it's about
> whether you are consciousness aware of it or not.
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 4:32 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 8:08 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> > *Hi John, **What does evolution and all you are saying here, have to
>>> do with whether something is bound into you composit conscious awareness or
>> Can intelligent behavior exist without consciousness or can it not?
>> If it can then consciousness is not needed from Evolution's point of
>> view and so could not have produced it. So how did a conscious being
>> like you get here?
>> If you can not have intelligent behavior without consciousness then logically
>> you'd have no more reason to think a AI was a zombie than to think a
>> intelligent human was a zombie. As for me I don't believe in zombies.
>> John K Clark
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