[ExI] Possible seat of consciousness found

[William Flynn Wallace]

Just one last word on how 'easy ' emotions are:

What are people's reactions to anger?  Oh well, easy - 1 2  3
What are people's directions to fear?  Oh well, easy   1  2  3
Wait.  What about the person feeling the anger?  What variables should we
consider:  Age, gender, race, religion, national origin, last food eaten,
last thing drunk, how did their parents respond to anger, who else is
there, how are they are they reacting, what are they wearing - and what
about their age, gender, etc?  Many more things are important to
understanding anger and all the rest, including hormone levels like
cortisol.  General signs and symptoms of too much cortisol include:

   - weight gain, mostly around the midsection and upper back
   - weight gain and rounding of the face
   - acne
   - thinning skin
   - easy bruising
   - flushed face
   - slowed healing
   - muscle weakness
   - severe fatigue
   - irritability
   - difficulty concentrating
   - high blood pressure
   - headache


Give it up , John.  Emotions are extremely complex and we are just
beginning to understand them.

bill w

On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:13 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:33 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> > You are talking about computers, boxes, simulations, and evolution.
>> Let's talk about people.
>>
>
> OK let's talk about people. People were produced by Evolution. I am a
> person and I am conscious. If intelligent behavior and consciousness we're
> not inextricably linked then Evolution could not have done that.
>
> > I don't know much about biochemistry, but I know how complex it can be
>> and you seem to be denying that.
>>
>
> Biochemistry and biology in general is indeed fantastically complex, but
> complexity is a vice not a virtue when it is more complex than it needs to
> be, and in the life sciences you constantly see the silly Rube Goldberg
> ways Evolution chose to get things done. I've already given the example of
> hormones and there are plenty more. The vagus nerve connects the brain to
> the larynx, in a giraffe the two organs are less than a foot apart but its
> vagus nerve is more than 15 feet long because it runs all the way down the
> neck and then double backs and goes back up the neck to the larynx. No
> human designer would be that stupid. And the design of the vertebrate eye
> is even sillier.
>
> John K Clark
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