[ExI] Possible seat of consciousness found

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 18 14:58:42 UTC 2020


Let me add:  many things appear to be irrational until you understand them.
bill w

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 8:54 AM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The only ones who don't make that conclusion are those who just like the
> idea that only a brain that is wet and squishy can be conscious,  john
>
> Ah yes, pride.  How many mistakenly thought that evolution said that we
> were descended from monkeys, which obviously made the theory ridiculous. We
> are still at it.  We have disgusting digestive functions that people are
> ashamed of and want to get rid of the ape suit, as someone earlier has
> said, and just be circuits.  We resist the idea that lower species can be
> so smart,like some birds. And so on.
>
> Evolution:  are we really at a place in our understanding of it that we
> can say with some certainly that evolution won't do that, or won't do
> this?  I dunno, but I suspect we aren't - not nearly.  Are all parts of the
> theory correct?  Missing nothing?  I have my doubts as an outsider.
>
> So something doesn't make sense in the context of evolutionary theory.
> Does that automatically make it wrong?  An avenue not to be explored?
>
> Man is not always (or even mostly) rational and neither is Nature.  Think
> about that:  we are trying to make sense out of a partly irrational Nature
> with a partly irrational mind.  Look what happened to economics when they
> finally gave up on the idea that man's choices were totally rational.
>
> bill w
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 2:48 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> > what is wrong with the idea that any creature who makes a decision, an
>>> intelligent act, is conscious?
>>>
>>
>> There is absolutely nothing wrong with you making that conclusion, and it
>> is the conclusion every one of us forms hundreds a times a day whenever we
>> encounter a fellow member of the species Homo sapiens who is not sleeping
>> or under anesthesia or dead. The only ones who don't make that conclusion
>> are those who just like the idea that only a brain that is wet and squishy
>> can be conscious, and the logical contortions they undergo to try to
>> preserve that belief are painful to behold.
>>
>> John K Clark
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