[ExI] your big chance

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 6 23:20:11 UTC 2020

broad-minded, liberal, nonconventional, nonorthodox, nontraditional,
open-minded, radical, unconventional, unorthodox. Words Related to
*progressive*. advanced, contemporary, modern.

Well, this is certainly me, but I am not sure that Wikipedia is reflecting
the public's view.   bill w

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:32 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:36 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > I can't call myself a libertarian because I am in favor of some social
>> programs.  I can't call myself a liberal because some of you think that
>> liberals are for suppression/banning of hate speech, setting up
>> safe zones where certain things may not be said, and are opposed to
>> vaccines.  I am actually conservative on some issues. So - your big
>> chance - what should I call myself?  What should you call me?
> Welcome to the club Bill, I have the same problem. There are a basket of
> issues that people have called liberal for some reason and another basket
> they call conservative but it's often hard to figure out what those things
> have in common. Why would somebody's position on suppression/banning of
> hate speech have anything to do with their position on free trade? Why
> would somebody's position on euthanasia have anything to do with how they
> feel about sending more American soldiers to the mideast? What does a
> position about banning end to end encryption have to do with increasing the
> national debt? And Conservative is supposed to mean maintaining the status
> quo but they want to change things regarding reproductive rights and the
> separation of church and state, and there is a strong negative correlation
> between political conservatism and environmental conservatism.
> As for the anti vaccine people and the Hawaiian telescope protesters, they
> belong in a third basket, the stupid basket.
> > I am a liberal first and a libertarian second and a conservative third
>> (a fairly distant third).
> At one time I proudly called myself a libertarian but in 2016 the word
> became contaminated, so like you I need a new word.
> John K Clark
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