[ExI] blind dreams

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Wed Jan 8 01:36:28 UTC 2020

Right, that’s the whole idea behind Descartes old idea of being a brain in
a vat, as described by Descartes so long ago.  Just as portrayed in the
Matrix <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gL0xQHI0wo&t=37s>.  All that
“juicy” steak physical knowledge isn’t in the matrix, it is in the brain,
in the vat, in the basement level physical reality.  All being generated in
the brain, from the matrix overriding a human’s normal sensory input and
control neurons.

So, do you agree that science can’t yet tell us the qualitative color of
anything, yet?

As in: "It's not a 'hard mind body problem" it's just a color problem".

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 1:55 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Brent's post made me Google this.  Blind people do dream and so have
> visual images, though the article did not give any details.  For instance,
> if one has never seen anything how can they dream about people or trees or
> anything visual.  Could not find that out.
> The dreams were different depending on when they went blind.  Those that
> kept their sight into adulthood tended to have dreams indistinguishable
> from ours.  Also, unlike myself, they have dreams involving touch, taste,
> smell, and touch.  My dreams are rather poor by comparison.  Shucks.
> So you don't need functional eyes to dream or to see in your dreams.  All
> you need is stimulation of the visual areas.  Thought you might find this
> interesting.
> bill w
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