[ExI] significant figures

[Kunvar Thaman]

> But they take their orders from elected, corrupt fools who keep getting
elected despite the peoples' disgust with them
1. Aren't those people getting elected because the majority of people see
them as competent leaders and elect them? Then it's essentially the public
which is the fool, not those political leaders.

2. Where do these corrupt fools come from? They also came out of the system
like us, went to similar schools, etc. We're in a system which promotes and
selects for people who are good speakers and people pleasers, who may not
efficient or smart people.

3. What can the STEM people do (I'm curious because I'm one of them) - not
follow the law? There have already been pretty good solutions to most world
problems which haven't been realized in practice. Small steps over time
lead to huge changes.

4.Sure there have been engineers in Congress but the elections don't select
for that. Public elections where common people vote are inherently going to
promote people who can influence other better than their competition.

5. There's plenty of stupidity and ignorance in STEM people as well.
There's a large percentage of people who got in to this field only for
financial gains ( well, these jobs *do* pay well) and not internal interest
or desire.

&Kunvar



On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 11:28 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> If STEM people got together, they could stop anything from functioning.
> But they take their orders from elected, corrupt fools who keep getting
> elected despite the peoples' disgust with them.  Side question:  are there
> any engineers in Congress?  In the California legislature?  Doctors and
> lawyers, yes.  STEM people, not so much.  bill w
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:20 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 10:02 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> >… has lied 16,241 times in the 3 years …
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *> News people often mix numbers having several significant digits to a
>>> subjective category. *
>>>
>>
>> They didn't just pull that number out of the air, every single one of
>> those 16,241 utterances can be specified, the only subjective part is in
>> deciding whether to call them "lies" or to use a euphemism like "misleading
>> statement".
>>
>> > *It is analogous to saying “In the northern hemisphere it is cold
>>> 37.641 percent of the time.” *
>>>
>>
>> Misleading statements like "My opponent in this election Spike Jones has
>> said the northern hemisphere it is cold 37.641 percent of the time and I
>> have the quote to prove it!". Some would argue that wouldn't exactly be a
>> lie but.. well.. it wouldn't exactly demonstrate a strong urge to get at
>> the truth either.
>>
>> John K Clark
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