[ExI] Fwd: significant figures

[William Flynn Wallace]

You and I may be the only sports fans in the group.  I played and loved
tennis, racquetball (no facility for squash but would love it) and golf.
Sci-fi, science nonfiction, any biology but esp. parasites, bacteria,
viruses etc.  I am 78, retired, and read like you, several at a time. I am
a social psychologist among all these STEM people.  I try to keep them
straight, but am failing.   Watch out for Spike, he will pull both of your
legs at the same time.  bill w

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:28 PM Kunvar Thaman via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Hey all, I'm a new member!
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> From: Kunvar Thaman <f20170964 at pilani.bits-pilani.ac.in>
> Date: Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 12:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [ExI] significant figures
> To: Gregory Jones <spike at rainier66.com>
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> Hey!
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> 1. I'm an undergrad in college at the moment. My majors are
> Electrical+Electronics engineering and Biology.
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> 2. My major interests are in neurobiology, machine learning, and I spend a
> large (shamelessly large amount of time) solving all sorts of problems from
> a data perspective (see: Fermi Calculations).
>
> 3. I find it convenient and concise to write down my thoughts in points,
> makes me free to not use as many filler sentences, gives it structure, and
> more organized.
>
> 4. I enjoy reading lots of books. I mostly read them in parallel - I've
> got many books going on at any given time. The reason for doing this is
> that emotions are not constant throughout the day, and between days. Some
> days you just don't feel like reading some romantic book but just want to
> read more about that murder plot. Having many books open in parallel makes
> it interesting for me.
>
> 5. I watch football (soccer), tennis, squash (I play it for my univ also),
> and follow chess.
>
> &Kunvar
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 12:11 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
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>> Kunvar, welcome!
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>> Do tell us something about Kunvar please.  Where are ya from?  Where are
>> ya headed?
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>> spike
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>> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *Kunvar Thaman via extropy-chat
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:53 AM
>> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> *Cc:* Kunvar Thaman <f20170964 at pilani.bits-pilani.ac.in>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] significant figures
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>> 1. Math guys don't rule the world because they're good at math, not
>> people pleasing or policy issues or administration.
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>> 2. Math guys to an extent are in charge (ex: finance - algo trading,
>> etc). Tech influence is on almost everything, which itself is based on math.
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>> 3. No single person has an influence on search or how the ads are shown.
>> No CEO or even the top engineer at Google understands even a small part of
>> even the search algorithm they use (they do far more than that) simply
>> because it's already too complex to be understood by any single person.
>> Algorithms rule the world in that sense, not people.
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>> 4. If you think about it, even the current world hasn't been run by
>> humans for a long time now. The major players in today's world are super
>> powerful imaginary entities, bigger and stronger and more powerful than any
>> human - countries like china and US.
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>> 5. >In our world today, we realize it is a huge arms race for AI.  The
>> first guy to create and control AI owns the world.
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>> Check out the book LIFE 3.0 - it's on this topic and is brilliantly
>> written.
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>> &Kunvar
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>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 10:12 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> *From:* spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: [ExI] significant figures
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>> > *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] significant figures
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>> >…So why aren't the math people in charge, Spike?   bill w
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>> >…They are in charge BillW.  People who hold offices and titles fool
>> themselves.  Our world today is ruled by science, technology, engineering
>> and math.  We even have a name for it: STEM.  The students get it.  They
>> know who really runs our world.  spike
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>> To expand a bit on that thought: the decisions made by the guys who run
>> the big search engine companies, the big social media hangouts and so on
>> have so much influence on US elections one could argue they are in charge,
>> but they only select political leaders.  In our world today, we realize it
>> is a huge arms race for AI.  The first guy to create and control AI owns
>> the world.
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>> spike
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