[ExI] you'll never see this again

[SR Ballard]

I strenuously disagree that only the far right are the only members left in the Republican party. They’re just the loudest and they are growing, but they’re not the whole party. Surely even you know some “not Trump, not Pence” Republicans?

That’s like saying the only Democrats are Bernie diehards. 

SR Ballard

> On Jul 3, 2020, at 11:55 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:45 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> >  I didn’t jump to anyone’s defense.  Pointing out that POTUS has no jurisdiction in this case isn’t defending POTUS.
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> You're excusing POTUS's dereliction of duty. The virus has outsmarted Trump at every turn, he even gave the virus a silly nickname (kung flu) because that strategy worked so well against his political opponents, but to his surprise this time it didn't work, the virus remained unflustered. So Trump is out of ideas, he's in way over his head so he just throws up his hands and says there's nothing I can do so I don't want to talk or hear about it ever again, and then he goes out and plays golf or does what he's really good at, turning on Fox News and watching sycophants fawn over him.
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>> > The rioters and BLM demonstrators are generally not wearing masks already.
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> It's true that not all of them wore masks and they should have, but the percentage was much higher than at the Trump rallies, and at least the BLM people were outdoors.  
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>> > The guy in the video can’t do much of anything, because he isn’t a governor, only a POTUS.  POTUS doesn’t have the authority a governor has in this case
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> And for similar reasons Franklin Roosevelt said in a famous speech: 
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> "Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy -- the Territory of Hawaii was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan. I'm sure I speak for all Americans when I say I wish the Hawaiians the very best of luck in the difficult struggle they have before them."
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>> > (Bill of Rights, Amendments 9 and 10.)
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> If what you say is true and the constitution renders the federal government powerless to protect its citizens from a global virus epidemic as every other advanced technological country in the world has managed to do then that is an admission that the constitution of the United States is a complete failure and is nothing but a worthless scrap of paper. But I don't really think the constitution is worthless, I think the current POTUS is worthless. Protecting its citizens is the entire point of having a federal government, but Trump is more interested in protecting statues of long dead American traitors.
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>> > the pandemic is not a left-right issue,
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> As long as Trump thinks wearing a virus protection mask is a political sign of personal dissatisfaction with him and as long as extreme right wing Republicans (the only type of Republican there is anymore) think that "member's of the Church of Secular Science bow to the Gods of Data by wearing a mask as their symbol, demonstrating that they are the elite; smarter, more rational, and morally superior to everyone else" then like it or not the virus epidemic has very much become a left-right issue. And respect for the truth has also become a left-right issue.
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> John K Clark
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