[ExI] diamonds falling

[John Clark]

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:12 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

*> John- My point was that Antifa gets to decide who the fascists are and
> then proactively use violence on them. *
>

Well yes, but In the final analysis that's not just true for Antifa,
everybody must decide for themselves who is a fascist and who is not and
what cause is worth fighting for and what cause is not. I think trying to
stop the police from murdering people is worth fighting for, and so is
trying to slow down the country's current march towards fascism, but
stopping the construction of an instrument that would help the human race
learn more about the universe is not worth fighting for. At least that's
what I've decided, what about you?

 > *If you're actually in favor of free speech,*
>

I think a person has the right to say anything they want no matter how
stupid, and I have a right to say they are unwise for doing so.

* > I'm not sure how you can reconcile that belief with it being ok for one
> group to do everything possible through both non-violent and violent means
> to shut down the free speech of anyone they don't agree with. *
>

Considering the huge scale of these protests there has been very little
violence from the protesters, I wish I could say the same thing about the
police. A police riot is the worst kind of riot.


> *> It's how Antifa operates, and that standard operating procedure has
> been inculcated on campuses throughout the country.*
>

I've looked into this a little, in the real world outside of the fever
dreams of MAGA Hatters and QAnon nutcases it seems to me Antifa rarely
operates at all, and when they do it's usually to organize students
protesting college administrators using student tuition money to pay a MAGA
Hatter to give a Fascist speech on campus. I have no problem with that, you
have the right to say whatever you want but you don't have the right to
make me pay you to say it. Of course sometimes they protest speakers who
are not Fascist like Richard Dawkins, and I do have a problem with that,
but even then it's not a First Amendment issue it's just bad judgement. And
of course Antifa is notoriously anti-capitalistic which is pretty silly.

John K Clark


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